"Cuz..." it fun to use 5 drones with 5 spares?

Why not change the new Worm to only use one drone with 600% bonus?

because if my dps is in 2 drones, what happens if someone webs one and stops it getting within 8km? also, what of tracking disruptors vs drones?

and if this is the way it needs to be to make combat drone ships good, why is this a guristas-only thing?

Again, being better is different from being fun. The current Worm sucks for most people, but it's my favorite ship of the game because it's a 25/50 drone shield tank frigate.

of course it's bad. drones are supposed to be pretty much ewar-proof.

I like using 5 drones on a frigate, i like micromanaging 5 drones plus 5 spares during fights, only having 2 active drones ruin the fun of this ship for me (the current Worm is my favorite ship of the game).

that would make no sense. combat drones need love, not to be made less interesting and worse.

On the other hand applying the same trick to the Rattlesnake with heavy drones will not work, you would need to either remake the Rattler as a super close range brawler or give the heavies a massive speed buff for them to even have a slight hope of staying alive fighting at the ranges a Rattle will typically fire from.

Just wanna touch on the major thing that really bothers me about the changes to the succubus. I have no issue with dropping a high slot... I understand and actually agree with it. What I don't understand is why you put it on the lows? I know everyone is going to jump in and be like "damage mods duh" but seriously... who needs 3 damage mods on a frigate that has the kind of damage bonus this one has on the hull already? I think the extra slot would be more beneficial to the mid slots due to the adding of the AB bonus which will practically guarantee anyone fitting a succubus will def be using an AB. Just my thoughts.

lots of assumptions combined with negligence of significant nerfs.

Did you just discount a 50% damage increase for 2 of 4 damage types for the very weapon you are complaining about as a "nich application of DPS?"

Mr Fabulous actually has good point (if poorly communicated). The navy dominix is a pure DPS play using drones and guns. Its damage output is over 1000dps before any implants or damage mods, and yet it sells for only 500 million or so - not far from the current rattlesnake's price.

This seems to show (to me) that people will not pay a large (pirate) premium for mere dps.

I think he's right. The rattlesnake will need more than just DPS to make it truly desirable and fearsome as a pirate battleship ought to be.

I mean, when I see a rattlesnake right now my first thought is, "gank it!". If I see a vindicator or machariel, my first thought is, "I need to be careful here..."

The only remotely comparable battleship would be the Widow, which requires a great deal of training and does not offer the longevity or damage potential of an equivalent rattlesnake.

The scopion has a very different role - ECM at extreme range, while the rattlesnake lends itself to brawling.

I think the rattlesnake would be a more favourable choice, unless you happened to need the ability to bridge covops ships.

ECM would give it a way to control the engagement while being strong enough to stay if it wished.

Perhaps a bonus to ECM burst only (range and strength) - that would be reasonable, allowing the ship to punch above its weight at the vanguard of a small to medium fleet.

Y'all gingers got no clue bout the Cruor. The bonuses work wonderful and will synergize into a ship that will dictate anything but a Daredevil*.


*Limitations may apply, such as Blaster-Daredevils s*cking donkeyballs and thus are easy prey.

well guristas have the shield resistance they won't give it to sansha aswell .. but a shield HP they might

So 51 pages in... what'd I miss? Yay or nay, or are we pegging our hopes on the second iteration?

They look decent for the most part, with the exception of the worm. A ship with small 5 drones out and a 10% bonus to hp and damage makes it equivalent to having 7.5 drones out at one time. However, you need to be able to kill 5 drones for it's dps to drop to 0.
With the worm, the 300% bonus with 2 small drones makes it equivalent to 8 small drones out at once, but small drones are extremely easy to kill, and killing one drone effectively halves the ship's dps.